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Posted 24 days ago As I have mentioned previously in some posts I used to work for a telecommunications company, Cox Communications to be specific. They have some good things going for them and some bad; the bad parts is you cannot be a human being or have anything that stands in their way. Case in point, they have a strict attendence policies; though I agree with attendence is important there are some things in life that cannot be avoided and a worker should not be held in fault for it. I.E. You are on the way to work and you are in an accident not of your fault so you are late for work. It is held against you. You are in an accident on the way to work, you end up in a hospital, it is held against you. Two of my co workers were taken out by ambulance due to chest pains and the other just not feeling right. One was extreme stress, the other was a stroke. They had to leave work and these incidents were held against them as "non excused" absence issues. My Dad died a year ago and I took off two weeks, (this was the only 2 weeks off I could get since I worked at Cox Communications and it was no vacation.) The company overlooked 3 days as grievence but made the other days off as an attendance policy violation. Granted I was just sitting on my ass eating fruits and drinking wine. I was dealing with my Mom who is in her mid 80's and funeral arraingments. Such fun and to be held responsible to a fault to being absent from work. Any other horror stories out there? |
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| Posted 19 days ago When my father died, I told my employer at the time that I would need some time off. That was over the weekend. The showing was on a monday, the funeral was on a tuesday. The monday afternoon (day of the showing and the first workday after I had alerted my employer to my impending absence) the boss calls me on the phone wanting to know if I was coming in that day. I sighed heavily then hung the phone up. He called again tuesay, wednesday, and thursday. I returned to work friday out of aggrivation. Same employer: Coworker wrecked his motorcycle over a weekend. He couldn't walk. My boss called him the following monday and when he was told that he couldn't come to work because he couldn't walk (couldn't drive) my boss went and picked him up. I mean afterall, us programmers just type, right? |
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| Posted 18 days ago Sounds familiar. I had a friend who was hit by a truck while he was riding his bike. He was taken to the hospital and his wife called his boss who sounded like he could care less that he was in the hospital, but was expecting him to be at work the next day because of the photo shoot they had scheduled. He got fired because of his injuries. |
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| Posted 17 days ago I was fired from my last job because I was in divorce court instead of at a meeting I knew nothing about to demo a product that was not finished and full of bugs to a company that had continuously ignored my pleas for them to fix their end of the webservices connection so it would work.
Good times. |
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| Posted 17 days ago Sounds pretty shabby. The company I worked for would have quarterly meetings at 6 a.m. It they were on your day off, you were required to be there. So if you had made plans for your two days off, like going on a two day vacation and couldn't make it, they held it against you. Also, you were not allowed to request paid time off for that day either. It was held against one of my co-workers who at the last minute couldn't make the meeting. She went into labor but failed to notify her supervisor at least 48 hours in advance. I am serious. |
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| Posted 16 days ago You know, its times like that that my smarta$$ mouth gets me in more trouble than its worth because instead of just sucking it up, I inevitably spit out some quick / witty retort about how utterly rediculous and nonsensical those types of things are and right there, it hits the fan. I don't see it as a flaw, just something that needs a bit more polishing. |
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| Posted 16 days ago How would you like a supervisor that calls you into their office and chew you out about complaining when they over hear a private conversation between you and another co-worker? How ever, if that conversation was between the supervisor and employee it is known as expressing a concern? Double standards at work here. |
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| Posted 15 days ago I was once charged with creating an online payment system for a customer so that they could take credit card payments with our web application. After doing the needed research (PCIDSS) I drew up a plan to implement this into our application. Once done, I took this plan to the boss, and after the usual give and take on design standards, the one pivotal aspect we couldn't aggree to was the customer's inability to take a payment without an internet connection. The application we had also had an offline mode, where the user could use a part of the application to alter data while offline on their laptops, then upload the data back to the server when complete. Now, so we are clear, what I was being asked to do was to SAVE payment data to and end user machine so it could be trasmited during the normal checkin process. The data to be stored included: I refer the interested person here. When I explained that I couldn't do that, I was told that I would either comply, or work elsewhere. |
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| Posted 13 days ago I agree with --mkeith......I am always getting into trouble because when I see stupid I just HAVE to comment on it. I have a friend that had major reconstructive back surgery and was back at work a week later. I don't know if I could have done that, but with jobs being the way they are......... |
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| Posted 13 days ago Was this voluntary or mandatory that he returned so quickly? Either way it was stupid. |
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| Posted 12 days ago While in college, before my first IT job, I had this other place I worked for. It was ... less than fun. I was also married at the time. When I got the job, we had already conceived our first baby, but he had not yet been born. I informed my new boss that, when the time came, I would need time off to take care of the two of them. The time came. While I was at work. I dropped what I was doing, let the guys that were there know, then made the rest of the phone calls on the way to get her and take her to the hospital. Two days later I was replaced. I was a contractor...no unemployment. That also means I wasn't fired. They just decided to go with another contractor. /sigh @Princess_Geek I was once told by my boss that I had to troubleshoot a customers problem with our payment plugin. After looking through the server logs, I told him that I would need them to print out some transaction logs because I couldn't find anything on our end. I was then told to obtain our customers account information, log in, and retreive the data myself. Just to clerify, that is an account not related to us. It would be akin to me asking one of you guys for your bank account login information. So, when I heard him suggest this, I just laughed. Not a loud laugh, just a little bit before I could catch myself. When I hear something that absurd, it just happens without me even realizing it until its too late. I must work on that. |
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| Posted 12 days ago I too knew someone who had to leave work early to take his wife to the hospital when she went into labor. This action was held against him as well. I did tell you about my two ex co-workers that were taken from work to a hospital via ambulance and it was held against them for leaving work early. One had a mild stroke, the other chest pains. |
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| Posted 11 days ago my 2 cents: the company I worked for had a point system for absences- it was a really bad winter storm, & half the company took public transit to reach work. well, that day, public transit was canceled due to ice & weather conditions being so bad even chains couldn't save the buses. & also that day half the company took a point because they were absent. unrelated to that- because i was so good my boss, after agreeing i could go part time so I could return to school, refused to let me go part time. "And in the naked light I saw
"Feed your Head"- White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane |
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| Posted 11 days ago ZeroDayExploit says ...
was this a call center? it sounds like 2 I used to work for. "And in the naked light I saw
"Feed your Head"- White Rabbit, Jefferson Airplane |
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| Posted 11 days ago Hey Checkel, I too worked in a call center. We too had that point system with is totally unfair to those who have or had legit reasons to being late or absent unexpectally. Was your call center with a company you worked with a cable company? Let me know. We may have worked for the same company. A company that says one thing and then does another. |
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| Posted 10 days ago Bosses that say one thing and do another...par for the course maybe ? :) I was hired on once while in college. Was asked to cut back on college so I could work more. Gave up multiple weekends with my kids (divorced so those weekends count double for me) and then, on the occasion when I made it into work at 9ish AM (one employee never showed before 2pm, another never before noon, and another sometime between 11am and noon -- no real schedule at that place) I was chewed up for an hour because my quality of work was slipping. Mind you, the reason I was "late" is because I had 3 hours sleep the previous weekend (All weekend in a datacenter 150 miles from home) and the following monday (day previous to this) up all night working on a webservice connection that was under a deadline. I was just too tired to be a smartass, too tired to care, and just slept with my eyes open through that one. lol |
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| Posted 10 days ago Burn 'em out must be the motto of today's companies. When I lost my job, where I was at work by 5 a.m. and called in when I was on paid time off, I slept 16 hours a day for a month. That is how burned out I was. |
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| Posted 8 days ago People always wonder why the good ones leave. Better than going "postal" on someone. @ Zero Day it was mandatory. She is still doing good though. I agree the companies here in San Antonio and gov. business will hire for 90 days then fire you. I have had many friends lose jobs that way. I remember working at Sears when they cut out their full time staff. If you didnt' cut back to part time they made your life hell. Then you would just have to quit. Sad sorry state this world had become. |
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| Posted 8 days ago I knew someone that worked at Sears and he said the same thing. |
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| Posted 6 days ago You know the saddest part was that I really wanted to see the application succede. Seriously, I missed the personal time that I was losing, or the time I lost with my kids, but I pushed myself pretty hard to make things happen, too. That's what really peeved me when my not being available 24/7 because of a few personal issues got me into trouble, or when I would get lectured for coming in 20 minutes late after being up all night in a datacenter troubleshooting a PC because nobody listened to me the first time. Every "mistake" I made was thrown in my face on a constant basis while the mistakes of everyone else where just overlooked. I still remember the time one of my coworkers decided, on a whim, to implement ESXi for our development servers which was a fantastic idea in my opinion. The problem was that he did it before a major demo (run from our dev servers) and didn't bother to test our new virtual servers' connectivity. The next morning I got blitzed from the boss for something I knew nothing about and had to fix. Guess who didn't man up and say that *I* had nothing to do with it. We also had huge problems moving new code to our production environment. Nothing was versioned and everything was moved line by line / file by file. Mistakes and downtime were constant with every moveover, and not just bugs we missed either. This stuff was entirely avoidable. So one weekend I sat up the whole weekend versioning 10 year old code and setting up a system to migrate dev code into production error free that, to this day, has never resulted in any downtime for their production servers. We had 1 guy that refused to learn how to do an svn co command via command line on the servers (or even via a third party svn gui interface) so I caught all manner of hell when the project was completely sanctioned from the beginning. Instead of seeing a project that COMPLETELY removed the errors and downtime we had they saw it as me being the only person who could move code up. Well, that was only b/c they didn't care to learn to do: "svn update <directory>" |
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| Posted 6 days ago That was horrible. I have not had the abuse in that form, but I know the feeling of being blamed for something I had nothing to do with. What makes matters worse is when they find out, (supervisor) that you had nothing to do with what they are mad about they don't have the decency to say sorry. |
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| Posted 6 days ago VERY few higher ups can say their sorry. It's like you should already know, so they don't have to say it. Reminds me of being in grade school, or junior high. |
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| Posted 5 days ago I was rebellious to a degree when I was in grade school. If I told the teacher I needed to use the restroom and they asked me just what I needed to do there I would tell them it wasn't their business. I would then go to the restroom on the way to the principal's office. |
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| Posted 5 days ago Sad to say but I had an informal relationship with my principals (we moved a lot) I would get to have snacks with them.... and lunch. |
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| Posted 5 days ago We moved alot too. You from a military family? |
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| Posted 5 days ago Dad was Navy. |
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| Posted 5 days ago I am ex-navy. On another topic: I applied the other day to this help desk / tier 1 tech support position. Bleh, but it is a paycheck. They called me yesterday, and after a somewhat brief telephone interview wanted me to come in and fill out some forms / take some tests. Data entry, excel, access, and customer service skill tests. About two hours worth of point / click after which I was cordially greeted by this nice lady who told me that while my scores were fantastic, I was woefully overqualified for the position. However, since they were a staffing firm, they would be more than happy to keep looking for me, but they handled mostly administrative jobs. If only I could have those two hours of my life back... |
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| Posted 5 days ago That stinks. They sould have been able to see that you were "overquaified" via your resume. I think is what companies mean when they say "over qualified" is "we aren't willing to pay you a living wage." |
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| Posted 5 days ago It doesn't really bother me to be over qualified for a job. They really do have a good reason - if something tuned more to my skillset opens up, I would definitely take it. They don't want someone who will be there for what may be a very short amount of time, but rather someone they can depend on to come in throught the project's lifecycle. I would imagine that, for a company, hiring someone new that fits the position you are hiring for is almost as difficut as finding a job that fits your own skillset, lol. I knew I was over qualified going into it. They staffing agency should have known. One of us should have been like, "Look, we both know I / you am / are over qualified for this position." It wasn't me, I wasted my time, and I just wanted to complain a little and blaime someone else. :D I do like this thread though. I guess in a dark, twisted sense, it is nice to see that many other people experience the same kinds of stupidity in the workplace that I do. Wait...that means many employers do it, so my odds of finding another one is good...that's bad :P |
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| Posted 5 days ago I guess it all depends what part of the country you live in. Here there are ligit reasons for being overqualified, but for the most part it is because they don't want to pay a living wage. I had a co-worker with 16 years of technical experience. When he was pushed into early retirement he went job hunting only to find a job this month, (he got pushed into early retirement in January.) He would be interviewed and then be told he was over qualified after being told that his qualifications seem to meet what the company was looking for. He finally was offered a position, part time, out of his field at over $8 less an hour than he was making. I have been out of work since July and have been running into roadblocks trying to get unemployment. I have had a couple of offers for an interview, but they were in some cases almost 1,000 miles away. I don't have the money to take that risk and I can't relocated at this time either. I have my resume posted on Monster, Careerbuilder and a local company. I am getting notifications from Careerbuilder but not from the other two. I am suprised that Monster hasn't yielded any results at all, so not like their reputation. Of course of the offers I am receiving most are scams like, "for an investment of $1,000 you can start your home business." Yea right. Anyway, good luck on your search. |
