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Untitled_max50

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Posted 8 months ago

 

 ok, heres the intro:


i have an older laptop with a 40gb hd partitioned into 50/50 drives. 18gb i think each. I want to make it one partition and do a fresh install of windows. So here is my question:


 


Is there a backup software out there that i can tell to back up my programs, documents, etc..... except for the win OS. I want to do a fresh install and re-install all my software without having to find their original setup programs. 


 


If so, where can i find it. I have found hundreds of backup softwares that let me choose the file extension to search for, but i want the entire program installation backed up.

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The only way I can think of to reliably backup not only your personal files but the programs and etc as well...is to ghost the entire drive...which does not "strip out" the os.


In fact. I'm not even sure that is doable considering all the registry hooks and machine specific data that goes on when you install a program.  Well..anything is doable to some extend...whether or not it is reliable or doesn't cost an arm, leg and your firstborn is another story.

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 do you know of a program or suite that can reverse an installation to the original setup files or atleast setup files that will work? I know there are files that tell it how to uninstall, why not use that file to see how it was originally installed?

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Well if you ghost the drive and then delete the partitions restoring that partion might work...I don't know if it will keep it a 18 gig partition or if it will allow you to use the whole drive.

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danman1453 says ...



 do you know of a program or suite that can reverse an installation to the original setup files or atleast setup files that will work? I know there are files that tell it how to uninstall, why not use that file to see how it was originally installed?



Regarding "reverse an installation to the original setup files" ... if you are talking about windows you can do that with the windows cd and select to repair windows installation.  That doesn't always work perfectly, but it will restore the ones that it finds are not there or are corrupt...a good deal of the time.  Otherwise manually is the way to go.


Regarding your theory on backwards uninstall....good luck with that.  Installation logs may tell you what files are where but in most cases you are not going to see the finer points that actually make the program work.  For instance, you may see that x file goes in y folder, however...it's not going to tell you where it unpacked that file from because it's inside your install exe which actually does not usually keep a record.


I don't quite understand why you can't just reinstall the programs you have installed. 


Any time you try to extract an already installed program file by file, registry entry by registry entry....you are biting off more than you are bargaining for (I wouldn't say this if I haven't been there, done that) some very small programs are extremely simple and can be done this way.  Especially ones that only have one registry entry to say, load at start up or a hook that tells the computer where a file is once a service is started or to tell the service to start if not started and only a few files.  When someone finds a program like that and successfully moves it from one computer to another they suddenly feel like it can be done with all programs.  This is not the case.  It is not just a matter of moving and matching...an install executable makes changes to the O/S and you are not going to find all those changes....UNLESS you are a programmer and you are intimately familiar with the language and procedure of creating programs of the same type you are wanting to move.


 

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 the reason i asked about the whole reverse install thing is that i have a *few* progams that i haven't been able to find again.

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And no new updated programs? What is an example?

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There is no way to do what you are talking about.  Software installations are usually bound to SIDs and other instance-specific factors.  The registry has thousands of records.  You have to reinstall your software into the new instance of Windows. 


Now, about your settings/files/docs/etc.: those can be easily saved by exporting your user profile.  The user profile will contain all of the user-specific settings and data. Its a pretty straight forward procedure:  In your System Properties dialogue box => Advanced tab => Settings button under User Profiles select the desired profile and copy it to a shared folder on some other machine on your network.  After you reinstall Windows, copy that data over your new user profile.

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Rate This | Posted 8 months ago

 

That's correct Stevo, deleting ntuser.dat ans ntuser.ini is also very usefull in many case.


 

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Rate This | Posted 7 months ago

 

If you are looking for a software to backup your computer this site has a great software that will back up your intire system.


http://www.acronis.com/

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I forgot that software page that I sent you that is for windows. Make sure you check the details of what computers, and OS it works on. Hope I helped you.

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Rate This | Posted 7 months ago

 

 thanks for all your input everybody. I just settled with what I could find again, and forgot about the rest. I still can't believe how much faster a system format can make your pc. I did stop and look at the updates and extras being installed this time around though. There is a lot of un-needed crap in an OEM install.

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There are many possible causes of a slow PC. Because your computer is constantly working with files - moving, copying and deleting from place to place - it will eventually get cluttered with leftover files, some of which are not needed and just take up valuable disk space. You only have a certain amount of disk space available on your hard disk, and as it fills up the computer can begin to struggle to find room to perform its tasks.


Things to make your pc run faster:


Well you could keep your pc clean, you could use ccleaner, and that keeps your cookies, cache, and things like that clean, also your registry. That takes up room on your computer.


Take out software and products that you don't use on your computer. And if you have other things on your computer that you don't use take it out.


I wouldn't use things like google chrome, and other tool bars on your computer because that slows your computer down, and takes resources. I wouldn't use messangers either. They are fine to have but they take resources to.


Remove malicious programs. If you have windows OS then you could go to this website and you can use this to remove the malicious software. This is something great to have right now due to the conflicker virus. The conflicker can make fake software and they can get in your computer. And there is more to that to. But back to the PC.


Keep your computer updated. Such as your OS, hardware, software and etc.


You can defrag your system from time to time! I don't know if you know how to do that, some don't. You have to go to start, programs, system tools, and then defrag, and then when it comes up then click defrag at the bottom. "Defragging" is short for "defragmenting", and it's a process you run on a hard drive to help make it faster. It's something you need to do periodically as files on the disk becomes fragmented over time - hence the term "defragmenting". If you remove things, and add programs and things a lot I would do this once a week. I would remove programs, and everything that you don't want before doing this. I would also clean your computer before this to. That will remove other programs. Defrag even puts programs back in order.


Another way you can clean your computer, is disk clean, there are several ways to do this. Go to start, programs, accesories, system tools and then click disk clean.


There are lots of things you can do. There are more than this. Try these things. And if you need more help just ask. If I can think of anything else I will let you know.


 


 


 

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I forgot you are welcome for the help.

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Just a note of caution:  NTFS volumes do not need to be defragmented nearly as much as FAT volumes.  Defragmenting a disk too much will wear the disk out.  What you should do is run defragmenter and perform an analysis to determine if defragmenting is even necessary.  Perform a defragmentation when the analysis says to.  With normal use this should be right about 4 times per year (once a quarter).

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steevo that can be true. But it depends on how much you use the computer. How much you download, unistall, delete files on your computer save files, and etc. I use my computer a lot to do lots of things, and I have to do atleast every month to two months. I do a lot.


Restore your computer, Microsoft website. This can give you more details about defrag. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/expert/northrup_restoreperf.mspx


There are some defrag systems on some computers, they are set to do it every week. And if you do a lot of things on your computer such as download, deleting files, uninstalling, and etc, you need to defrag at least once a month.


And another thing is if your computer is running slow then this is the best thing to do with other things as well.


When you "defrag" your hard drive, you run a disk defragmentor program to optimize the placement of files on your hard drive. Here's what happens. As you use your computer, it writes to the first available spot on the hard drive. Over time, files tend to get rearranged on your hard disk, or fragmented. For this web site for more info you can go to this site below.


http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/1207


You never run anything while it is defraging. That would be screen saver, move you mouse, run programs, and etc. You are not supose to do that either.


Now about the analysis, you can go to this sites and read more on it.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/228198


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781880.aspx


Thinks for the advice. But these sites are good to read to get into details and tell more about it.

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 Where on earth did all that come from? The topic was done. wow. I don't know why, but all of that kind of irritated me. hmmm. If my response is out of line, just ignore it.

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I am sorry if I offended anyone. I was trying to give you some more advice. I want trying to make anyone mad.

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danman1453 says ...



 Where on earth did all that come from? The topic was done. wow. I don't know why, but all of that kind of irritated me. hmmm. If my response is out of line, just ignore it.



...SO out of line!

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Since this forum is discussing backups, I have a question. I want to make a full backup of my laptop and my desktops. I am considering buying an external harddrive and copying my entire harddrive onto it incase of a problem with the main harddrive. I have alot of files and music on my hard drives not to mention all my school files. Would this type of backup work or is it unadvisable to do. Do I need any special software to do this kind of backup. Just wondering. Thanks all.


 

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Ok after readin some of the replies, you need to think about this.


 


Norton Ghost is what most companies use as well as the state to refurbish there PC or to "Ghost" them. I use it all the time. It is the best the is. You will no longer have to reinstall applications on your machine or drivers:)


 

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For both I would try Norton PartitionMagic 8.0 it may be able to do what you need.  Ghost is an absolute necessity.  Make sure you have a good backup before you proceed.  This may work for removing the Partition.