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I have found some very disturbing news the other day and I just want to get opinions. 

The AMERO!  Ever heard of it?  Me neither until my friend and I were talking one day about the economy and how our government is going to be able to get out of this mess that is driving the economy down into the ground.  He had found out information that some President's have been planning for this day to come so they could open up our borders by building a superhighway extending from Mexico to Canada and make the wonderful United States of America and change the name to the NAU or National American Union.  I do not know about you but I think that I could deal with a currency change.  

What I can't deal with is calling the great U.S.A. a name that it does not deserve and opening our borders to our neighbors.  Please realize that this is not some kind of racism toward Canadians or the Mexicans.  It is just that we are Americans and there are, I feel, many of us that still believe in our great country and not willing to give her up to become one entity instead of three separate countries. 

This currency was mass produced in 2007 and $800 Billion was sent to China, who is also buying up all of the Gold and Silver, as a good faith payment on the debt that is owed to China by the U.S.A.

If you do not believe me I have proof just put the word AMERO into the search bar or go to this site: www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I... - 33k or click here www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp

If you choose to purchase this currency there is a site for that to just go to: www.amerocurrency.com/support.html

If you want to take a gander at the new money here is a pic:

This new currency is going to take place of the U.S. Dollar just as soon as the government is able to make it completely crash.  On the good side though I have heard that if we or when we accept the AMERO everyone's debt is to be erased and we all get to start over, but if you ask me they can keep it.  I would not trade America for anything. 

SO!  I just want an opinion. 

"Please realize that this is          some kind of racism toward Canadians or the Mexicans. "

 

Did you forget the not?

Here is the thing, what if I produced a web site that said I am God and you must follow me, buy your salvation now for 2 easy payments of just $19.95.

I may get a lot of believers who send me some money, but all it is is another web site fabricating your reality. Remember HARP.

I especially do not believe the buying currency thing because it is not from 1. a USA bank and 2. not from a .gov site.

Find me more reputable resource and I might click your links.

And finally, I am an artist my medium is digital I can make anything look like anything even things that have never been seen <by you>.

OH and I cannot see the currency pic. Does it have Obama on it or something?

edit I see em now they look pretty.

here is another coin made by the same person I think.

coin.com/ProductImages/me_fake_pr_448.jpg"> http://web.archive.org/web/20071002205505/www.dc-coin.com/ProductIm...

My honest opinion and initial reaction:  Conpiracy theorists wet dream.

Also, from what I understand about the Amero when it was first introduced in 1999 as an economic theory, that it was not about consolidating three countries into one country...it was about a monetary and economic union.  Similar to the European Union and the Euro.  I remember them talking about the Amero on the news, back when,  and the government at least at the time rejected the idea...much as I believe it does now.

I don't really find that a mint making something they call an Amero and selling them as any type of valid proof of anything.  There are people selling Iraqi denars for heaven's sake and they are not banks nor are they any type of financial institution....they are people selling something that isn't worth anything.  Funny too I just made a blog this morning about how things are only worth what other people will pay for them.

But taking a different tactic at it let's look at why this isn't really feasible...in my opinion.  Creating a combined economic system would not benefit the United States and it certainly woud not benefit Canada.  I highly doubt Canada would agree as it would devalue their money.  On the other hand it might actually help Mexico by increasing the value of their money.  Rich people that support the politicians would never agree to it... they go to Mexico for a lot of things and largely because they can get a whole lot more there than here because of the low value of Mexican currency.  Besides all that, doing this would be having America admit that they actually need help...not going to happen...whether or not it is true...I cannot see it happening.

We have made ourselves into one of the richest, if not the richst nation's of the world.  Even though our economy is in the shitter at the moment, we still are the youngest and richest of most nations of the world (not all but most).  I simply cannot see it happening.

I'm waiting for the lizard people to jump out of the hat on this one.  Conspiracy gone wild, as per usual.  It's just not our government that is to blame for what is happening to our economy, it's also the big business, financial institution and yes, in part, all of us.  It has always appalled me at how apathetic Americans had become in regards to our government and what big business is doing and the worldwide (not to mention nationwide) impact thereof, finally though I see some people starting to pay attention.  It is just sad to me that for the majority of Americans it takes something this tragic to finally wake them up.

/end rant

Hey MagiAwen!  I appreciate your opinion on the matter and you could be right.  It maybe only a conspiracy theory.  It may be good that it turns out to be exactly that. 

Thanks again for your opinion on the matter, I really appreciate all comments and opinions so that I can analyze what people think. 

What a load of garbage, a currancy that you can buy with different finishes at different prices? If it was a currancy it would not be sold on a .com, it would be a Government currancy on a .gov, here is also what snopes had to say.

www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

Hey JeffEmon!

     You may be right about this currency change to be garbage and I appreciate you adding your comments to this publication.  Just ask yourself this question though.  If you were our PRESIDENT would this be a tactic that you would use to cover up your plans on changing the currency?

I think that this may be a way or tactic that is being used to test the waters on how people feel about changing our money from paper to coins.  The government wants to see how easy or hard their job is going to be to make this change.

Thanks again for reading and posting your comments.

Tech_Insider says ...

Are you sure that those coins aren't being minted by the Bank of Liberia for a limited time only? Get yours now while they are still in stock!

That is very funny, but strangely you may be right !  I suppose that everyone will see soon enough whether you believe or not.  I appreciate your opinion also. 

THANK YOU for posting.

jesaus1661 says ...

I think that this may be a way or tactic that is being used to test the waters on how people feel about changing our money from paper to coins.  The government wants to see how easy or hard their job is going to be to make this change.

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I think we already saw what would happen, remember those soda machines that accepted the Sacagawea dollar. yeah me neither.

As a foreigner it would help if you could do something to distinguish more between the various dollar bills.  It's a pain when you go to tip and you realise too late that the denomination of the note you are in the process of handing over is rather generous and being British are too reserved to take it back and look for a smaller bill.  Or I might just be a tightwad!!!

As for the Amero, would Mexico and Canada be that keen to lose their own currency and cede control to the US treasury, I doubt it?

America should return to pre-revolutionary days and re-adopt the pre-decimal British Sterling system, imagine the number of jobs created converting financial systems to manage a currency denominated in units of the pound (£)  made up of twenty shillings (s) each worth 12 pence (d) giving 240 pennies to the pound.  With the penny further subdivided into two half-pennies and four farthings.  By the time the conversion has been done the recession will be over and other countries would have to employ American currency experts just to figure out how much they are actually selling something for or paying for something when it is priced at £1 3s 2 3/4d. Though I wouldn't advise the British method for solving their earlier trade deficit with China...becoming a Narco state.

jesaus1661 says ...

I also feel that the three governments are going to force the new currency on us.  They do not plan to give us an option. 

 

They are going to tell us that if we want to get out of this economic downspiral that we are all riding we need to accept the AMERO and all will get better!

I think that the only way that the economy is going to get better is if the government will stop running this country like their personal accounts and start runnung it like a business!

 Does it at all matter that the heads of each country, at the time when this so called Amero clandestine meeting occured, all said it (the meeting) had nothing to do with combining currency.  Probably not...right...because most people will tell you "That's what they want you to think."

You know what I always think is funny about this type of conjecture?  While people are busy coming up with conspiracy theories that our government(s) are up to something....they actually are...and most people including myself would probably be aghast and surprised at what is going on and has gone on that we never ever hear about.   I wonder about conspiracy theorists though...do they ever wonder, while they are busy concentrating on one theory...in essence watching one governmental area...that there are a whole host of things going on where they aren't looking.  It reminds me of magicians and illusionists....whatch what this hand is doing....keep your eye on the ball...meanwhile the other hand is disposing of the ball and replacing it with a $50.00 bill.

A change in currency is not going to solve the economic issue.

My state is worried about running out of unemployment benefits since there are so many people out of work and over 30,000 new claims like each week keep going on.  It will take a lot more than printing new money or minting new coins.  And exactly how spending billions of dollars to make new money is going to help, I cannot quite see. 

Sure, there may be new jobs in it for people converting to new money, the financial systems, software and etc...but also there would be a lot of expense.  Every public telephone, every ATM, every soda, candy, chip machine, every cash register, a lot of stuff.  I think it would be more of an expense and at much more of a financial loss than some seem to believe.  Heck...how long have the U.S new 5's and 10's been out....and still there are a lot of vending machines and change machines that don't recognize that money.  How could one believe that suddenly our government and software/hardware/mechanical/optical technology vendors would be suddently efficient and thorough?

Neh... it would cost more to change than to stay the same as far as JUST changing out the entire currency.

What I find interesting in this thread is that so far no one has mentioned Obama.  Has he personally endorsed or recommended this particular economic theory?  I haven't seen, heard nor read where he has....however, that hardly means anything either.

Something else that was interesting was that yesterday a woman came up to me in the grocery store and told me Obama is going to be the ruin of America because he's a totalitarian tyrant, a socialistic sympathizer that is going to make decisions without consulting anyone and put this country even further in the shitter.  Personally I think she was pretty ignorant in throwing her terms around and was going to say a few things to her to straighten out her way of thinking, but then I thought better of it....if a person can get facts messed up with opinion so easily, it's best to nod and smile.

But this leads me to some other interesting thoughts.  Firstly she said that he is going to single handedly force the abortion issue and make it legal in regular hospitals.  Then she said that if he does that there are over 30 Catholic hospitals that will close because of it.  Now, I have not heard about all of this but I really cannot see hospitals being foolish enough to close over this.  Understanding that it is not within the Catholic belief system to terminate a pregancy, I am sure that if an abortion approval goes through....that hospitals will not be forced to do them.  But who knows.

I just think it is interesting that the man was elected president, assumably because more people in America voted for him.  His platform was about change, thus those that voted for him apparently wanted change.  So he stands up and says a few things and then people freak out....because.....things might just change.

For sure this will be a most interesting year.

Something else occured to me about this while I was constructing dinner.

Firstly...whether or not all nations adopted it so far or whether or not individuals think it's a good idea...having something like the Euro makes sense.  Remember European countries are much smaller than Canada, U.S and Mexico.  I mean...if you think of a comparison...think of every state in the union having a different currency.  This would mean if I went from Wisconsin to Washington state...I would have to have seven different currencies (if compared to traveling from one end to the other in Europe).  This is costly, inefficient and sort of ridiculous.  So...to me...in that way, the Euro makes perfect sense.

Now.  Me having to have Mexican money could quite possibly happen once a year or once every two years.  And even though I live about a 3 hour drive from Canada...I don't often go there.  In fact, I haven't been to Canada since I was 16.  So...saying that combining currencies would relieve the masses from monetary exchanges and etc... the majority of the masses in America don't even go to either place...possibly ones on the border cross over daily even...but they don't go exchanging one for the other.

Besides that...something from my last trip to Europe.  I didn't even have to get money exchanged before I went.  I have a visa debit card.  Yes they charge a bit for the exchange, but it is minimal (less than going to a money changer) and I don't have to worry whether I am in a place that takes Swedish Krona or Euros or whatever else.  It does the job.  Same with Canada and Mexico.  Of course, occasionally you would run into places that take cash only...that is where the cashback features comes into play at the debit card scanner of a place that takes them comes in handy.

And still I cannot get over how this would "fix" the economy.  Pumping money in the wrong places, making new money, changing an entire financial system and even coming up with "new jobs" isn't going to fix a whole lot.  There will have to be A LOT more comprehensive programs, tax breaks, tax credits and incentives for small to mid business owners to either stay in business or create a new one.  All the reforms we have needed for the past 15 years...in a "nutshell" need to be done....all of them.  Education, healthcare, deficit, economic planning, infrastructure cost and delivery, energy conservation, technology needs to actually become a bit more realistic instead of putting all the money and energy into new gadgets that we "must have" ... we need to actually employ the gadgets and technology we have...the technology industry...the mass of it kind of ticks me off.  It's its own ugly monster, driven not by the consumer but this gadget and we can go faster than you product war.  It's being driven by the wrong thing.

TheNuclearOption says ...

 MagiAwen:

It isn't just that the Euro makes it more convenient for people buying goods in Europe it means that manufacturers buying components in Euros and selling manufactured goods in Euros know exactly what their profit margin is going to be.  If they buy components costed in dollars, Yen or any other currency and sell in Euros, or vica-versa, any profit is hostage to the currency markets.  For projects that take several years to complete currency fluctuation can turn a profitable project into a loss.  It works the other way, but companies prefer to minimise risk.

One only has to look at the impact the exchange rate with the dollar has on the cost of oil to see how currency fluctuations can have huge impacts when oil is traded in dollars and is the worlds primary energy source.

I certainly understand that that is part of the issue. However, it's not often I go on about things I don't know a lot about and import/export and all the technicals involved is something I do not know a lot about. My goal was to tackle just that one perspective for the common person. I think the Euro is a great idea from the traveling perspective.

The one thing I don't understand...and mind you I'm not an economist or even especially good at accounting or anything. What I don't get is...isn't part of what drives an economy is the worth of their currency? So...if you get it down to two or three world currencies...isn't that eventually detrimental to world society in the long run?

And really...I don't remember ever hearing that Mexico's or Canada's currency value has ever really taken a sharp dive or sharp upturn so it seems to me that figuring out your profit margin from buying things in Mexico would not change as much as buying things from China.

And wouldn't that put a huge damper on American companies who deal with manufacturers in Mexico? I mean one reason companies here buy things made in Mexico is because it's all cheaper as compared to the dollar. It costs less U.S dollars (in conversion) to employ a company in Mexico to say...build engines for the VW bug than it costs to employ workers/a company in America. So if we had this Amero and all the currency was the same...that may be an incentive to not deal with Mexico anyway since it (iin theory) would cost about the same in all three countries.

Of course...that could be good for America...might actually employ some more people over here instead of in another country. But still...technically Mexico would "lose". Of course there is probably a whole slew of other reasons why it would be good and bad for all countries. I'm not that educated on the whole how all countries run thing...

In any case I really don't like the idea of the "Amero"...it pains me to think of the entirety of North America as one big America...because that is how it would seem and probably how it would be played. America is one big melting pot of culture, and it would be sad to see beautiful and independent cultures swallowed up in the "American Machine." No matter what problems it may theoretically solve in other countries.

Ah and to address a point that was brought up earlier by jesaus...Whether or not "most" Mexican people are moving up here to save money in order to move back to Mexico. Did you know that each year about 3 million native born Americans move out of America to Mexico and other countries? I happen to know a person who did just that...he was a bachelor, saved up about 150,000 u.s and moved somewhere in Africa where he actually has a huge tract of land, built a school, created jobs for people on his ranch, has a huge manor house, living quarters for workers...the whole bit...he lives over there like he is a multimillionaire...living out his dream. Because he could not afford his dream (at the time) in America.

I dunno..money talk sometimes makes me physically ill lol. It's all such a mess anyway. I still cannot see the Amero happen in reality.

 MagiAwen:

I can see your concerns but to me and I'm not wanting to patronise (though I often do with my Brit lack of tact) they have more to do with emotion than logic.  Did the people of Ireland become less Irish when they started buying toilet paper in Euros rather than the Punt? And are Americans so stubborn that they will never accept change, clinging on to history and tradition?  That is how Nations fall behind, putting tradition before productivity.

If a common currency benefits Mexicans, Americans and Canadians then why not embrace change? Before the rise of the nation state we had a common currency, it was called gold.  Its not as if it is a new idea!  Perhaps the real conspiracy was that we were fooled into thinking that each nation state needed its own currency!

TheNuclearOption says ...

 MagiAwen:

I can see your concerns but to me and I'm not wanting to patronise (though I often do with my Brit lack of tact) they have more to do with emotion than logic.  Did the people of Ireland become less Irish when they started buying toilet paper in Euros rather than the Punt? And are Americans so stubborn that they will never accept change, clinging on to history and tradition?  That is how Nations fall behind, putting tradition before productivity.

If a common currency benefits Mexicans, Americans and Canadians then why not embrace change? Before the rise of the nation state we had a common currency, it was called gold.  Its not as if it is a new idea!  Perhaps the real conspiracy was that we were fooled into thinking that each nation state needed its own currency!

 

Here it is again, I see this in most forums when it comes to discussions about people and their countries. Sorry to be the one to break this to you but individuals do not equal a country. You assume that because some do not accept your change that this means that is the sintiment of everyones thoughts. But we Americans could say the same of Irland and by the way didnt the brits just leave there after sorting out your problems because Irland refused to change by clinging to their guns and religion. A little like calling a kettle a kettle. Who is being fooled into thinking, the trueth is that no one in any country has an answer they<leaders> just make it up as they go. If anything Americans are more likely to and have made more changes and continue to, I've been to europe people are still living in the same houses with 200 year old roofs<not saying thats a bad thing>. The point is we, me, you, everyone has to stop associating individualism with a group, that is when you will find change, its called accountability. And when you start treating people like individuals you may find they like you that much more.

America's would be idiots to embrace mexico's failing ecconnomy and lack of human dignity. They as a group need to get their heads out of their ***. The people need to stop comming here and fix their problems there.

And no Nuclear should never ever be an option and if you think it should then you have been fooled into thinking that.

Nuclearoption and MagiAwen

I appreciate both opinions that you have posted!

NuclearOption, I understand that you appreciate the idea of not having to convert the U.S. Dollar to another currency.  You are right on the fact that it would be more conveinient for the world to have the same currency.  So, how do you feel about the idea of just converting the worlds currency to the U.S. Dollar!  I take "PRIDE" in our country and our "MONEY" eventhough things are not going to well for us right now!  I know with all that is in me though that this will change, because I still believe that we still have the "Drive" and the "STRENGTH" to pull our economy out of this mess that our "IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT" put us in.  As much as I would like to blame MR. President Bush for this down fall it is really the fault of all of our leaders.  The "PRESIDENT", "CONGRESS", and the "SENATE."  All three of these entities make the decisions for the United States of America.  These entities are supposed to represent the people that put them their, but I feel that most of them don't.  

I do not know about anyone else, but that would be more conveinient for me because that is the currency that I know and the one that I myself take pride in!  This is the reason why I had started this blog.  I want people to know what might happen not what is definately going to happen.  I am not a world leader that may be planning on doing a currency change or making anyother plans on changing the laws.

I wish that I knew so I can more appropriately write my thread.  I wanted to open peoples eyes to what may be happening.  I am not a conspiricy theorist, I do not have that much time to think about crazy notions like this.  I mean if this did not hold any weight then it would not be on the news! 

MagiAwen,  I understand your thought process, but have you ever stopped and used some cognitive thinking on what you say is the truth and what is conspiricy theory?  That is all I am going to say right now.

As always thank you very much for voicing your opinions, because before long if it is true what I have read what is going to take place we will all lose this right to voice our opinion.