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Report: Office Depot Lies About Notebook Stock

Report: Office Depot Lies About Notebook Stock

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Shane McGlaun / DailyTech

March 11, 2009

‘Source tells Laptop Mag that managers and sales people regularly lie about notebook availability, telling customers who won’t buy extended warranties that models are out of stock.’ -

Most consumers have gone into a retail store looking for a product and only finding out after deciding to buy that the product is not in stock. At the same time most of us have been hounded by aggressive sales people trying to sell extended warranties and other services.

According to a source at Laptop Magazine, Office Depot associates and managers routinely lie to customers about stock levels. Laptop ran a story discussing an attempt to purchase a netbook in Office Depot and the extremely aggressive sales man trying to sell an extended warranty with the notebook and service add-ons.

Update: Here’s ,a href=“http://insidetech.monster.com/news/articles/4254-office-depot-issues-official-statement-on-notebook-sales-policy”>Office Depot’s official statement.

Laptop reports that when the story ran it began to get email from readers about their experiences and received some emails from people identifying themselves as Office Depot employees. One reader claiming to be a manager at an Office Depot wrote, “At store level, OD puts too much pressure on sales consultants and managers to sell the PPPs (Product Protection Plans) & TDS (Tech Depot Services). I know of several stores in my market that will ‘feel out’ the customer to see if they are the type to purchase these services. If the customer lets on that they only want the computer and no services … then that store simply claims to be out of stock! We are required to sell 30% + on both of these services or we get PIP’d (Performance Improvement Process) (or Written up) and get ultimately fired.”

Laptop was later contacted by a person going by the name Rich, who proved himself employed at Office Depot with a current check stub. Rich said, “I have witnessed lying about the availability of a notebook, and have been told to do so myself. Once I was talking to the customer and, while I am actually speaking, my manager comes on the radio and tells me to say it is out of stock if they aren’t getting anything with it. I always ignore him and sell it anyway because lying to the customer is flat-out wrong.”

Rich went on to allege that Office Depot employees are expected to sell a quota of warranties and Tech Depot services and that the pressure is so high if a sales person feels the buyer isn’t going to purchase add-on services they tell the shopper the product is out of stock.

Office Depot issued an official response to Laptop saying, “We certainly appreciate your bringing this situation to our attention. Our objective is to sell merchandise and to offer and recommend solutions to our customers, without regard to whether a customer purchases or does not purchase a service warranty or a software package. Office Depot has been recognized with numerous awards for our commitment to customer service, so please know that we take this issue very seriously and will take the necessary steps to ensure that we continue to enhance the customer experience and promote quality in our customer-related processes. With respect to your inquiry, we intend to look into the situation further, as part of our continuing commitment to ensuring customer satisfaction and consistent selling practices.”

© 2009, DailyTech


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    Ennui

    4 months ago

    4 comments

    TimC - Actually, no. High dollar items are usually very low margin, ie a laptop that costs the consumer $500 probably cost Staples $450 from the manufacturer, so they're only making $50 profit. Their high margin products are the little things like paper, pens, etc etc etc.

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    Ennui

    4 months ago

    4 comments

    I worked at Best Buy for a few years and am thankful to say that I NEVER had that problem. Yeah, they push it, but if you don't get it, you don't get it. I worked at the store ranked #27 out of about 6000 (Appleton, WI). We also didn't work on commission, so we were able to concentrate on what the customer really needed, not what our bosses wanted us to sell. I'll never work somewhere retail on commission. And I won't shop from someone on commission either. Too much incentive to lie.

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    TimC

    6 months ago

    586 comments

    Like they aren't getting enough $$ from the product when it's bought?

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    MrMach5

    6 months ago

    2 comments

    I worked at an Office Depot for 3 months oh man it sucked! This is Blog is so true, if you didn’t get the PPP sold with laptop or other piece of equipment you sold you got hammered. It was better not to sell the piece of equipment than sell it without the PPP.

    Office Depot doesn’t make a whole lot of money on laptops or other big ticket items. So they try to make up for it by selling the Product Protection Plans and other crap on top.

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    shandel

    7 months ago

    70 comments

    Only the folks who dont know about the products will be scam here.But it is very sad to know that these so called big names stores are doing this horrible thing just to make a few extra bucks.

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    clyde

    7 months ago

    2 comments

    What has been posted on Sears ( Sears Holdings) is absolutely correct as they do hard pressure sales associates ( consultants) constantly on MPA's, Home Appliances, its not what you sold or how much, but "did you get the MPA with it?!" They also create in store "peer pressure tactics" amongst staff, but they call it friendly competition. The rewards are few and monetary compensation is very low. You don't get MPA sales, yes, your hours are reduced and/ or changed to traditional slow periods during the week as mentioned, they just wait for you to quit then so they don't pay any unemployment. working as a part-timer. Being a Sears card holder for 35 years previous, doesn't mean anything to the Management . Being "on-call" when someone esle doesnt show up for their shift, that is way overboard when your making $8/hr or less. They expect alot for what they pay and no benefits!!

    I too expect to be forced out but I treat the customer as I would expect to be treated, fairly and with respect. I shall not compromise my business ethics,yet I shall present the MPA at every sale, at the product , not at the register. If its in stock, store or warehouse-the product is sold.

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    rtetrev

    7 months ago

    6 comments

    They're not the only one doing this.

    In the Burlington, MA area, I used to work at a Sears that demanded at least a 10^ return on Extended Warranties, for every dollar in product sold. One of the new sales personnel at the time came from Lechmere, recently fired for having below-than-average Pro\duct Protection sales.

    Retail sales people will go to any lengths to sell these warranties, or risk getting fired for "poor sales performance".

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    bpl

    7 months ago

    2 comments

    I did not see this kind of events in the Office Depot stores at Washington, DC area. I think FBI is here. No one dare to commit such scams as NYC's camera shops did.

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    jonw1701

    7 months ago

    2 comments

    Try "Office Max." They have always been great to my company, with no "BS" and no pressure to buy add-ons or anything including the word "extended" in it.

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    cooltrini

    8 months ago

    2 comments

    T had the same problem with Staples. I went in to buy a Laptop that was on sale for $549 The sales person tried to sell me Extented warranties and protection that raised the price to $825
    when I refused and said I just wanted the Laptop , the sales clerk then told me the item was out of stock.
    I went to three more Staples stores and had the same experience.
    I finally got the item at the fourth store. I declined the extented warranty.
    The sales clerk then told me, after fourteen days dont even try to bring it back to the store if it fails.

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    UnkieBo

    8 months ago

    1040 comments

    Oh what a tangle web we weave when at first we practice to deceive!

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    comier957

    8 months ago

    2 comments

    I have also worked at Staples here in Novato, Ca. I also was told to lie and cheat the customer out of hundreds of dollars jut to make out Store Manager and District Manger happy. Our SM was a short, bitchy, little POS. She bitch about everything, why it wasn't the way it should be with our PPP, TSP, FSP, and since I was also the Easy Tech for the store, I had to make sure that I made a certain much of that as well. The SM and DM were made from the same mold of stupidity. Before they finally change the policy , every time I was in need of a laptop or camera, the first thing the manager on duty or supervisor were ask would be "Are they getting the warrentys or plans" I would always tell them, they want to know if we have it in first. I would check and if we did, then I would try my best to get them to get it. I would just explain to them about the plan as I have read the terms. The prices were out of many people price range for the product it was made for. They always had jack the price up. I was the only one who could actually get most of the work done, like the truck load done before going to lunch. We had two of us working on it at one time. We would switch off on who would help customers and/or finish the load. Customer would always ask me for help, which wasn't the problem as for just everyone else couldn't speak English. For me it didn't matter, I knew most of the time what customer are trying to ask for.
    I told off our DM straight to his face while my SM was right next to him. They wanted us to gt a cart and start putting extras items into the cart, only so that the customer can take them out and leave the items wherever they were in the store. What a bunch of douche bags!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I didn't care what they wanted me to make every week. I made what I could. Some were better than others in sale. I told just about every customer that came in where to get better deals at. Mostly online of course, but for warranty or protections, I still to this day suggest square trade for them. I don't work for them anymore, (Thank You God). I going to finish up with these tip. When going to these store that's all corporate base, Make sure you do your homework before asking any questions, plus that way it makes them look really stupid in the end. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    pinkfloyd

    8 months ago

    2 comments

    Yeah usually I don't respond to things like this, but I'll make this exception!! I went into Office Depot to get OneCare for my puter since my subscription ran out. I bought it and got back home and for some strange reason the "product key" was being displayed as "in use." I ended up talking to Microsoft for like an hour and a half to finally figure out that it just must be a fluke and something was wrong with it. So I went back to OD and went up to the register and waited in line while some manager was up in the box doing something. I stood there while some older ladies had their orders rung up then it was my turn, all the while I'm noticing, that there are ppl coming up to the customer service desk and waiting. I told the girl at the register (who was very sweet) the situation of what Microsoft had said and that I just needed another one. She called up to the "box" and told them she needed a void because for some reason it wasn't letting her do it. Now while I'm standing there waiting, someone finally comes down out the box and heads to the customer service desk, not the register, and proceeds to help the customer there. That wasn't the individuals' fault, he was just trying to help. I finally get tired of standing there while 6 ppl behind me are waiting now as well. So it was an open staircase to the box with no gate or anything, and I'm an outspoken person so I have no problems walking up to someone and saying, "Hey we need someone down here." As I get to like the 3rd step from the top, this guy (whom I believe to possibly be in-store security) jumps from around the corner and says to me, "What are you doing here?" I replied, "We have been waiting on this void for like 10 minutes!" He proceeds to tell me that he has sent someone down to help when I already know that because I watched them come down and go to the customer service desk. I then said to him, "We need the void at the register not at the customer service desk!" He then says to me, "Someone will be right with you." As I turn to walk back down the steps, I thought he must not know that guy went to the customer service desk. I turn back slightly to say that to him and he jumps form around the corner again and says, "You need to leave or I'm gonna have to call someone!" Let me say this, if it wasn't that I was desperate to get that antivirus back up and running cuz I had plans, I would've asked that prick to step outside. Not only was it rude, but it was threatening. Wrong thing to say to someone who's already pissed that I'm waiting in line and the product that I bought from your store isn't working. I don't go looking for trouble and go and try and start fights like some ppl do but at that moment I would have beat his ass in the ground for talking to me like that with no reason other that you're in turmoil and can't get it together. That's not my fault, as well as, if I had been creeping around money then yeah maybe. I got his name from the other employee and will take this all the way to the top, to the CEO if I have to. It's the principle behind it. People are going to have good and bad days and that's life but you never say anything to a customer like that unless they are in the act of stealing or you are being threatened. I just couldn't believe the nerve of this guy to say that to me without provacation. Anyway that's my 2 cents and I won't go back in there again.

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    fathrtime

    8 months ago

    4 comments

    I've been into Office Depot 3 times total. Every time I found the staff to be very unfriendly and the last time made a complaint through their request for feedback. I now understand why the staff are like this! I'll certainly never shop there again... Also a comment about what "Village Smithy" wrote below regarding the Sears cashier - There is no way I'd put up with that.. I'd have walked out and told him to shove it!! Everyone wants your money, least they can do is be civil to get it!

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    sgtcelella

    8 months ago

    10 comments

    The best way to deal with pushy sales people is to know more about the product than they do. Ask difficult questions, and when they can't answer them, just politely inform them that you don't need any more of their help. This task should be relatively easy for any computer tech. After all, a decent tech shouldn't be working in retail.

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