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Analyst On Vista Hate: Get Over It Or Get Off The Boat
Jason Mick / DailyTech
May 19, 2008
‘One writer/analyst is speaking out blasting XP “holdouts” and lauding Windows Vista while comparing XP to a crummy airport terminal.’ -
Don’t like Windows Vista? Love Windows XP? Well columnist/pundit Rob Pegoraro with Fast Forward, carried by The Washington Post, doesn’t like your attitude. Having heard a wealth of criticism for Vista and praise for XP, Pegoraro said enough is enough in an impassioned article detailing his stances on the XP vs. Vista debate.
There have been many recent reports of both consumers and <a href=“http://www.dailytech.com/Companies+Adopt+Just+Say+No+Policy+On+Vista+Wait+For+Windows+7/article11778.htm” title="Companies Adopt “Just Say No” Policy On Vista, Wait For Windows 7 “>particularly businesses rejecting Vista and waiting for Windows 7 to upgrade. Despite Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates ”http://www.dailytech.com/Gates+Vista+is+Moving+at+a+Rapid+Sales+Rate/article11732.htm" title="Gates: Vista is Moving at a “Rapid Sales Rate” ">bragging of “strong sales” in the consumer sector, OEMs are pushing hard for Microsoft to extend Windows XP’s life. If they can’t convince Microsoft, they’re going to offer it anyway, even if not officially sold by Microsoft anymore, via certain loopholes such as downgrade privileges.
Downgrades? Rubbish, says Pegoraro. Pegoraro, a strong Vista supporter, states, “By the strictest definition, Windows XP has been dead since January 30, 2007 – the day its replacement, Windows Vista, arrived in stores and XP promptly vanished from most new computers.”
Pegoraro doesn’t think that Vista is a bad product. He points out that Vista does have its issues, “steep hardware requirements, its strict anti-piracy measures, its sometimes-intrusive security measures, its incompatibility with some older products”, and acknowledges that these factors have driven strong XP sales. He mentions that in Q1 2008, XP sold 87 million copies worldwide, according to IDC analyst Al Gillen, while Vista sold 132 million copies worldwide.
Pegoraro also pointed to the slipping of the Microsoft end-of-life deadline for XP from January to June, under manufacturer pressure. And Pegoraro brings up the wealth of online “Save Windows XP” petitions, lead by a massive one hosted by the tech magazine InfoWorld.
He points out that XP was not exactly beloved by all when it was Microsoft’s flagship product, and he accuses the public of changing its tune when presented with Vista. While running XP on existing systems is logical, he argues that on new home computers it is ridiculous not to run Windows Vista. He states, “It’s another thing to say that on a new home computer, Vista is so unacceptable for mainstream use that you’d be better off with its predecessor.”
Security is one major flaw in Windows XP, which is blasted by Pegoraro. He points out that even with three service packs and other smaller updates regularly released, Windows XP still needs to multiple security programs to safely connect to the internet.
With a bit of sarcasm, Pegoraro comments, "XP is not something that needs to be “saved,” as if it were some architectural triumph in need of historic preservation. It’s not an Old Post Office or a Union Station; it’s more like that crummy midfield terminal at Dulles International Airport, a once-serviceable structure that outlived its utility years ago."
Most things that are wrong with Vista are also wrong with XP, he argues. Again, not shying away from controversy he comments, “And that, in turn, helps explain why Apple is selling so many Macs.”
Vista is easier to use without configuration he argues, which in the end is another mark in its favor. He argues that most problems with Vista were fixed with its first service pack and third parties are jumping on board. As an aside he blasts those third-parties that haven’t jumped aboard saying, “If they haven’t, they probably never will. Presumably, those dead-enders are uninterested in any new sales to the customers they’ve ditched in this way.”
Is Pegoraro a fan of XP on small computers like the ASUS Eee PC? Not so; while he says he can see the appeal, he argues Linux or other operating systems are much better for the purpose. He states, “But the builders of these little laptops don’t have to choose between obsolete or sluggish Microsoft software. Faced with those unappealing options, many of them are instead loading the more efficient, free and open-source Linux operating system, which happens to perform many everyday tasks just as well as Windows does.”
Finishing on a controversial note, Pegoraro adds, “If you’re unhappy about Vista, don’t get sucked in by the misguided nostalgia for XP. Root for the success of non-Windows computers. Or buy one yourself. Nothing attracts a company’s attention like taking your business elsewhere.”
© 2008, DailyTech

Sonj
about 1 year ago
2 comments
This Pegoraro is not much of a journalist if he subjectively labels third-party creators as "dead-enders" who ditch their customers if they refuse to buy into Vista. And I thought the Washington Post was a credible news source. Why should everyone follow MicroSoft? If MS isn't satisfying the consumers, they shouldn't be the market leader. How 'bout some of that good ol' American spirit of freedom and ingenuity? Imagine a world without MS dictating to you.
Rexton
about 1 year ago
4 comments
To be honest! At first I was well up for vista and bought Vista Ultimate! but even after the service pack 1 the OS was just so irritating to modify/customize and repair that it drove me too tear out half of my hair and forced me to go back too Windows XP, my main source or irritation was as Rommelp has said the UAC constantly asking me if I am sure I want to do that! Of COURSE I want to do that otherwise I WOULDN'T have clicked it!!! As a Microsoft Certified Professional I find this part of the OS the most pointless for an engineer as it slows down his work by half.
They have pushed Vista to much too the low end of users, home users that don't even know what internet explorer is!
This Rob pegoraro is not listening to the consumers, Microsoft is NOT listening to its customers or even Partners!!! So many petitions, so many complaints and they are still pushing vista through, Sudobash is correct a lot of Microsoft’s consumers are going too linex or Mac!
Right now all my machines are on XP and my Vista ultimate is being use as a stand for my Monitor! When Microsoft bring out another services pack that makes this OS more engineer friendly I will consider going back too it… to top it off not even my job Company are thinking of going vista!
melissad
about 1 year ago
2 comments
The original worked on my AMD/Tyan 2895 mobos, each with 4GB, other than having to await sound & printer drivers, and no on-board USB's worked.
Vista repeatedly fell into what has been called the "loop-back" issue. Tyan has the Nvidia chipset and MS support said not to install that or SP1. Of course, it installed the Nvidia chipset anyway first time I shut it down on all three installs. 6.5 hours and three MS Live support calls later, it still fell into the reboot loop. I got another operating system, and shrugged off the money, but MS cannot give me the three days back, or make the users now confident in it.
My partner insisted on return to XP, and I went back to Linux and an offer of $750 bonus for anyone switching to Linux with VMWare holding XP for transition, in the next 90 days.
Monopolies should be regulated to protect the consumer, as MS obviously doesn't care one whit.
melissa
inquisitivedzign
about 1 year ago
10 comments
well maybe your an exception but if you wand wgoodman I'll send you a screencast of my computer running ultimate slowly with everything I listed below. My computer is crazy fast running a dual-boot of sabayon linux and vista home...but once put in ultimate...its a crazy amount of sacrifice. It's not worth it plus what do you need ultimate for anyway? Beryl on Ubuntu and other opensource OSs is way better and prettier.
wgoodman
about 1 year ago
10 comments
I have been running Vista ultimate for 9 months with 2gbs of ram, and dual core 2.4ghz. No slowdown. No problems.
jonesam
about 1 year ago
10 comments
Well what do you expect from some one at the Washington Post, Look at there Publication.
KingJames73
about 1 year ago
4 comments
another sad comment about "Obama bin Laden".......pathetic, uninformed, close-minded.....stick to things you know.
inquisitivedzign
about 1 year ago
10 comments
I think that this is all rubbish. Vista should not com on new computers instead of Xp unless they are capable of running vista well. The problem is that it is such a heavy operating system. And if you want to run vista ultimate forget about it. By all accounts my computer is pretty impressive system. I run 4gb DDR2 Ram, a quad-core processor each at 2.66GHZ, and a 512 Nvidia video display card. I also have dual monitors and surround sound but that is pointless. The point is that Ultimate ran slow on my system which means it needs a ridiculous amount of processing and ram or just DDR3 ram. So if ultimate is so heavy it needs a $6k system to run it is it worth producing? Secondly I fix computers on the site and I can't tell you how many people bring me brand new "bargain" desktops from best buy or another store and complain about it running slow. So I downgrade their OS and the performance increase is crazy. All these companies are trying to put vista on 1gb of ram computers and I even saw it on a computer with 512mb ram!!!! I think that in order for vista to be practical all computers with Vista home need 2GB or ram Min, Business Edition 3GB of Ram, and Ultimate at least 4. Either that or they all need to have DDR3 ram and lets face it that probably isn't going to happen. Like sudobash says Linux is gaining popularity with its increased driver support, better software packages, and friendlier interface. Moreover because of windows poor execution of a OS; apple has increased in sales dramatically. The OS that used to be on it's way out the door is now a major microsoft competitor. I think this guy didn't do his homework and on top of that there is no way he is a techy. If he spent the time researching and using systems like us geeks do he would realize the error of his ways.
KingJames73
about 1 year ago
4 comments
My problem with Vista was the fact that when the power went out once, Vista was completely unrecoverable from that point. I ran all the software that I could that came with the new PC, but nothing could bring it back from the dead except an XP downgrade...
With all its limitations, at least XP could take a power outage and other abrupt shutdowns without causing complete ruin of the pc. Maybe the service packs have fixed this, but I think I will wait another year or more like I do with a new car model before getting one. Such complex things (especially from Microsoft) take time to work properly.
wgoodman
about 1 year ago
10 comments
150 of our computer use Vista, and they are problem free. Program we have designed for Win 98 run without a problem. We are even running java programs that were designed for Win 95 and MS version of Java before the lawsuit. Also on the UAC, just turn it off. There is a setting in the user profile to turn it off. I have found that most people who hate Vista have never really given it a chance. Most have never installed it, and other uninstalled it at the first bump in the road.
Mikey95hd
about 1 year ago
4 comments
Remember Windows 95? Well Vista is a PIG, who has ever heard of a DVD needed space just for Vista's installation program? And it runs really slow on the most modern PC's Rob Pegoraro is the same as our Washington DC politics, after all he works for the Washington Post, CLUELESS...
sudobash
about 1 year ago
6 comments
Well XP and Vista both suck incredibly... Linux is going to take over because it is getting more and more user friendly and it is free! Also it is 100x better at 3D Desktops with Compiz and Beryl... I don't want to get into specifics of why XP and Vista are so Terrible but the only thing I use XP for is to play games that Linux cant run... Besides that I don't know why you would want to slow you PC down just to keep up with Microsoft... They aren't thinking about you, they are thinking... Hey if we can make an OS that is SOOO New that it has to have the BEST Hardware than we can get these dumb people to buy a NEW PC just to get our CRAPPY OS that you have to pay way to much for... Microsoft you suck and I think this Rob Pegoraro is probably getting payed by Microsoft to advocate them! Why don't learn something better, like BSD....
Paulscr1
about 1 year ago
104 comments
I love it Like I said Vista sux, Yet , People that Don't with xp, and vista 24/7 don't get it
Go vote for Obama bin Laden
rommelp
about 1 year ago
82 comments
Vista would have been a better OS if the feature UAC (User Account Control) is not included in it! UAC is the most annoying and irritating part of the OS. That is why most users prefer XP over Vista! If Microsoft doesn't get rid of UAC in its next OS, then I'm afraid that it is also headed the same way as Vista as far as consumers are concerned (Vista hatred)